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CharlieWaffles
03-30-2011, 04:01 PM
Any news or information on announcements at Sun and Fun? I heard perhaps a new transponder? Pricing for 5600?

lcbowen
04-03-2011, 05:33 AM
Yes, I'm waiting on xpdr news too. Let's hear it!

Trevor Conroy
04-07-2011, 08:30 AM
The price on the new transponder will be about $1750. It is still in the certification stages, so we are estimating mid-summer availability. It is a Mode-C remote transponder that will package nicely with the remote ADS-B box for better traffic (compared to TIS-A from the GTX-330) and the free FIS-B weather service.

markhamstra
04-07-2011, 09:11 AM
It is a Mode-C remote transponder that will package nicely with the remote ADS-B box for better traffic (compared to TIS-A from the GTX-330) and the free FIS-B weather service.
To be clear, this means that it is not capable supporting a 1090ES datalink for ADS-B out, required above FL 180 in the U.S. or to function in the European ADS-B system. Correct?

Trevor Conroy
04-07-2011, 09:29 AM
The transponder is indeed Mode-C. We utilize the NavWorx ADS600-B transceiver which meets the 1098ES and 978Mhz requirement. Using the two boxes saves you money since you are not having to buy a Mode-S transponder with 1090ES AND an ADS-B box.

markhamstra
04-07-2011, 09:48 AM
But if you want to fly above FL 180 and want FIS-B, you're going to need both a Mode-S transponder with 1090ES and a UAT ADS-B box.

Trevor Conroy
04-07-2011, 10:07 AM
This is not the case with the NavWorx ADS600-B. It is also a mode-s transponder. They are working on certification right now.

markhamstra
04-07-2011, 10:17 AM
Really? Can you point me to information that explains these mode-s transponder (and 1090ES) capabilities of the ADS600-B? This is news to me, and I see no mention of such capabilities here: http://www.navworx.com/ads600-b.asp

To be clear, I know that the ADS600-B functions as an ADS-B out device over a UAT datalink, but to my understanding, that is not sufficient for flight above FL 180, which requires a 1090ES datalink.

Trevor Conroy
04-07-2011, 10:39 AM
You may have to call Bill at NavWorx. I got the information from him. As far as I understand it, the ADS600-B has a built-in transponder which has the capability to transmit your N#, hex code, and/or Flight ID number. That very feature is the Mode-S part of the output.

markhamstra
04-07-2011, 10:50 AM
Well, certainly the same information as is transmitted over a Mode-S transponder reply and even over an 1090ES ADS-B out response is transmitted over ADS-B out using a UAT datalink, but you can still color me skeptical that the ADS600-B covers the 1090ES datalink requirement for flight over FL 180....

Trevor Conroy
04-07-2011, 10:59 AM
I could be wrong (and I've been known to be in the past :), but I understood from Bill at NavWorx that he is working on certifying the transponder in it for that very reason. They have plenty of time to get it worked out anyway since the requirement is 9 years away and to be honest I'm sure AOPA will fight any mandate as usual.